Girls Way Meaner, Says Yahoo Poll

Guys, were we really so outgunned when we were kids? Are we still?

Big brick elementary school - illustration by Peter Arkle.

Seem to have struck a nerve here. Ouch.

Having begged the question in recent posts, finally came out and asked -- Are girls meaner than boys? -- in latest Pater Post on the Parenting Channel of Yahoo's slick online mag Shine. Thanks to Y people for providing polling gizmo that shows running results, which, I gotta say, astound. Never, ever did I imagine this Yes! blowout -- 84% of the vote, last I looked. Even more amazing is the flood of comments, virtually all from women, about how crazy mean she-people can be from girlhood on. Lot of pain, rage out there from wounds suffered way back in school. Who knew? Apparently every living female human being, that's who.

Pater's feeling a mite confused. Maybe what I was having fun with, isn't so fun. On the other hand, I'd swear my first-grader girl and her friends entertain themselves with all the complicated strife and dramas in their social group, like they're doing an unscripted theatrical that never ends. Also hard to take the emotional fireworks so seriously when they come and go, just like that.

Out of new and un-Pater-like concern about girl-girl aggression, I just went to Amazon and scoped what seems to be essential pop hit book on the subject, Odd Girl Out by Rachel Simmons. Gathering, from the blurb, that total warfare with risk of real psyhological devastation, breaks out starts in middle school. So no worries until September, 2014, right? On the other hand, maybe first-grade-level meaniness is the first step toward the shooting war. Who the hell knows? Do I buy the book? You kiddin'? That would be so momblog.

Maybe I'll download on my Kindle and read in secret.

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I don’t think that girls are meaner than boys but I do believe they “fight” differently ...psychological warfare instead of physical aggression.  Our society teaches us from an early age that it is not ladylike to hit, punch, push, etc..  But it is permissable to use tears to get our way!  An approach that boys are taught is used only by girls and sissies.  We learn subtle methods for bending the will of others.  Their long term effects may be more negative than the masculine punch and be friends again. In that sense, females may be meaner.  However, I don’t think anyone is advocating that girls use the physical methods of boys.  No wonder both sexes need to learn how to be assertive without being aggressive!

Comment #1, posted by Grandma B on March 19, 2010 at 01:41:35 AM

While both boys and girls have equal potential for cruelty, I think psychological abuse is pretty much ignored, especially in the school environment. In elementary school, I remember that boys who would be physically violent and intimidating would usually get punished. Yet, psychological attacks and harassment, most often dished out by girls, went unaddressed. I remember feeling angry at the adults for condoning that behaviour through inaction. It felt like, as children, we were left in a vacuum, a little subculture where the moral values we were taught in theory weren’t fully enforced.

Even in high school (in my case, an all-girl private school), teachers turned a blind eye to obvious cases of mental and verbal abuse. It was simply bizarre to have them admonish us at lenght over a shirt that wasn’t tucked in, yet not voice a single word against viciously harassing another human being.

I certainly don’t think all girls are cruel and catty witches, but I think the desire to be accepted and popular can go out of hand if left unchecked. It’s important to teach them early on to recognize pettiness and mob mentality for what they truly are.

Comment #2, posted by Celeste on March 19, 2010 at 05:41:39 PM

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